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Dynamic Astrology III

experiments with time - aspects in relationships

"Billy Pilgrim says that the universe does not look like a lot of bright little dots to the creatures from Tralfamadore. The creatures can see where each star has been and where it is going, so that the heavens are filled with rarefied luminous spaghetti. And Tralfamadorians don't see human beings as two-legged creatures, either. They see them as great millipedes-'with babies legs at one end and old people's legs at the other,' says Billy Pilgrim.
Kurt Vonnegut Jr. Slaughterhouse Five

The secondary progressed chart is one of the pillars of modern astrology. This system of dynamic astrology was first described by Placidus de Titus in the 1650s.

Secondary progressions are thought by some to be the best kept secret in astrology. It might come as a surprise to skeptical readers, but progressions are remarkable in astrology because they are both precise as far as timing is concerned and quite extraordinarily consistent.

The question to ask next is probably something like "if that is true, how come astrology is unproven?"

The answer is probably twofold. First, there has been too much focus on experimentation by testing the ability of astrologers and then with testing the natal chart and transits. Second, secondary progressions are regarded by some as a symbolic chart and many pragmatists, including some scientific astrologers, don't believe in symbolic charts. To find the secondary progressed planet's positions (hereafter called the progressed planets) you have to count forward one day after the birth for every year of life and then erect a chart for that year. People can understand and accept old ideas about astrology and they have a natural trust of real-time astrology - the idea that planets zap you with Virgo-ness or Leo-ness at birth - or - the idea that Saturn in the heavens now is zapping you with unhappiness rays because of the internal Virgo-ness of your birth horoscope, which you somehow carry around with you. Real-time astronomical events are somehow figured to be more empirically valid than other astrological ideas which are actually more likely to be true. Progressions constitute small time frames (days just after birth) which correspond with larger time frames (years of life).

The secondary progressed chart is effectively found by adding your age to your birth date and erecting a chart for that day. The progressed chart for your 25th year is found by erecting a horoscope for 25 days after you were born. Some regard this as a symbolic chart, but again, it is only symbolic if you believe some kind of ray zapped you at the time of your birth. Use of the word symbolic in the context of progressions suggests a lack of connection between the birth horoscope or perhaps a contrived connection based on some kind of numerological game. In fact, a year in the progressed chart more closely resembles the idea of self-similarity a quality of fractals in geometry where one day at the beginning of life represents a larger period of time in later life. These divisions of time are based around the relationship of one Earth day and one Solar year. Remember, the thing that underpins astrology is the idea that time has meaning .

Progressions are not so much symbolic as holographic. The changes that take place in the progressed chart constitute the unfolding of the potential of the natal chart. Just as all our future actions have a dependency upon our previous choices, the possibilities of the progressed chart provide a plan through which these potentials will unfold in a broad-based channel. One philosophical question is of great importance to astrologers: 'does the natal chart have a greater or lesser influence on a person than the current progressed chart?' This question defines whether dynamic astrology is more or less valid and whether the progressed chart is just a useful little tool to forecast and rectify or whether it is actually more relevant than the birth chart. If the progressed chart is more important, it undermines sun sign astrology because, for instance, all Virgos become Leos at some variable point in their lives.

While planetary progressions do not constitute the whole of progressed astrology,(progressions of the angles of the horoscope, which are based upon the time and place of birth, are very important), we can use them to some extent to elucidate similarities in people born close to each other in time.
If you compare the progressions of Adolph Hitler and Charles Chaplin, two famous people born four days apart, you find that Hitler's planetary progressions are about four years ahead of Chaplin's. Hitler was born on April 20th 1889 and Chaplin on April 16th 1889. This means that Hitler's progressed chart in 1910 contained the same progressed planetary positions for Chaplin in 1914. In February 1910 Hitler became a vagrant moving into a shelter for poor men. In February 1914 Chaplin invented the Tramp, a mustachioed vagrant whose moustache Hitler would later copy.

This is not the only crossover between the two. For Hitler, his progressed Sun entered Gemini, the Mercury-ruled sign associated with communication, in 1919, and by 1921 he had become an orator. Chaplin on the other hand had to wait until 1923 for his progressed Sun to enter Gemini, in 1926 he decided not to allow his tramp character to talk in the movies. The last ever Chaplin non-speaking movie, Modern Times, was made in 1936. In 1938 he began making The Great Dictator, emulating Hitler who had become the dictator of Germany four years previously, on the death of Hindenburg in August 1934. In the Great Dictator, the tramp, or a character resembling the tramp, was allowed to talk at last...dressed as Hitler.

While the themes of their lives were played on different stages and at different scales and the minutiae of their lives may have differed greatly, it is possible to see how progressions could place similar issues in different people's lives. The progressed planets for Hitler in 1910 and Chaplin in 1914 are the planets from May 11th 1889. If we look to see what aspects happened on that day, we find Neptune, (the planet of dissolution) in an exact conjunction with Mars (the planet of ambition) - this is an astrological signature for vagrancy. For Hitler 1921 (Chaplin 1925), the progressions are for May 22nd 1889. Neptune (dreams, illusions, delusions) makes a conjunction with the Sun (purpose, goals).

Hitler's progressions for 1934 (and Chaplin's for 1938) are the planets for 4th June 1889. On this day Jupiter, (kingship) and Venus, (adoration) formed an exact trine.

Hitler's birth chart has long been puzzled over as a chart with very few planetary aspects (connections) in it. Apart from conjunctions, a quincunx and a couple of semi-sextiles, his chart is unremarkable. His progressed charts are quite remarkable and he responds to the arrival of what could be termed more useful aspects with enthusiastic utility. Chaplin does the same, but the themes of their lives are played out in different contexts. These are not identical twins with identical lives, but I'm sure you can see that their progressions match at some level, and in their case, four years apart.

If we were to expand this study to include other people of note who were born in April 1889, we would find some other interesting similarities:

Antonio de Oliviera Salazar, born April 28th, eventually became dictator of Portugal, He first became a government minister in 1926. This is the same progressed year for him as 1934 is for Hitler and 1938 is for Chaplin.

Adding Dutch Admiral Karel Doorman (April 23rd), Nobel Prize winning Chemist Paul Karrer (April 21st), English Conductor Sir Adrian Boult (April 8th) Philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein (April 26th) and American painter Thomas Hart-Benton (April 15th) to the list and we have some quite interesting coincidences.

Doorman and Hitler died three years apart, but they were born three days apart and so died in the same progressed year. Doorman went down with his torpedoed ship, refusing to leave the wounded; Hitler took his own life and took his wife and pet dog with him. Karrer and Hart-Benton died four years apart, but again in the same progressed year. Sir Adrian Boult died eight years later than Hart Benton, but within the same progressed year as both Karrer and Hart-Benton. Wittgenstein died the year that Saturn opposed Jupiter. Chaplin died the year Venus conjoined Pluto; Karrer, Hart-Benton and Boult all died when Venus conjoined Neptune and Doorman and Hitler both died when the Sun conjoined Jupiter.

"In like manner a trine aspect is the most fortunate and best"."A quartile the lesser malevolent aspect"
(William Ramesey 1653)

Planets

If we are looking to decide which planets to test for their effects by aspect in relationships we have to approach their meanings and assess which ideas warrant further exploration.

The inner planets, (which for the sake of person-centred astrology include the Sun and Moon) are regarded as personal planets, while the outer planets Jupiter through Pluto are regarded as generational planets. This is not a good reason to relegate the outer planets from specific roles in relationships, but as personal ideals are described by the inner planets, perhaps they are the first to explore.

The Sun governs the lifepath, motivation, will and negotiation, it is masculine and assertive

The Moon governs the emotions, response and moods, it is feminine and passive

Mercury governs social communication, it is gender-neutral

Venus governs attraction, values and compromise, it is feminine and passive

Mars governs methods, personal dynamism and physical sexuality, it is masculine and assertive

 

Whereas the outer planets have other, less personal, concerns:

Jupiter governs generosity and expansion

Saturn governs limitation and control

Uranus governs freedom and innovation

Neptune governs dreams and mysticism

Pluto governs transformation and power

 

There is another consideration regarding the difference between the inner and outer planets and this is that the inner planets move more quickly in the secondary progressed chart. If this chart is, as it appears to be, especially important, then faster moving planets will show more marked changes than slower moving planets. They will therefore register detectable changes under analysis more readily than the outer planets. The Sun will move a degree every year in the progressed chart, but Jupiter might not move more than a degree in five years; Saturn one degree in ten years and Uranus one degree in thirty years.

The progressed moon, on the other hand moves very quickly through the secondary progressed chart at a rate of 12 degrees a year, and so it would be crucial to have very precise timings for data relating to the progressed moon to be valid. We would therefore need to include times of birth for both of the couple if we include the progressed moon.

Targeting Areas of Similarity

There are very few common experiences in life which have a high degree of similarity for the participants. Birth of children, promotion at work, relocation, honors and awards; iimprisonment, lottery wins, illness and death are contenders as experiences where the feelings and circumstances of individuals bear greater levels of similarity for those experiencing them. It is however possible to envisage circumstances where a promotion at work or a lottery win will have a variable effect on the individual, and while we may subscribe to an idealistic view of the birth of a child it is not always the same experience for all involved, for example the birth of a first child is a profoundly different event to the birth of a fifth child to one individual; the addition of a child to a happy marriage is clearly different to the birth of a child in an unhappy marriage. In fact it is difficult to think of a human experience which is likely to yield results which are both astrologically and scientifically valid. The world is so full of wondrous variety of people, circumstances and feelings that to find a single experience in which we can isolate a single astrological variable which may be the corresponding 'event' is difficult. Theoretically it might take a miracle to find one. Two astrological effects have been reported, one concerning the eminence of sports champions (the mars effect) and one concerning scientific discoveries (the eureka effect).

There is one experience which fulfils the demands of astrology and science and that is love, or rather, the feelings felt by lovers during the initial attraction they experience to one another: The courtship period.

The initial 'limerent' stages of loving, intimate relationships, contain identifiable dynamics of feelings and behaviours. Lovers describe not being able to sleep at night, longing for the closeness of their lover, longing for contact. They describe sensory information being heightened during courtship; the importance of certain pieces of music which later create nostalgic experiences, as do certain smells and even news items, all of which circumscribe a very important time period during which the world seemed more real, more important and more meaningful. While these reactions may be chemically induced (see phenylethylamine), that does not preclude an astrological component from the equation.

So the early stages of loving relationships - courtship - can provide an astrological variable which may respond to scientific testing.

And so we arrive at the experiment: we have a possible area of life which can allow us to experiment with astrology - the beginning of intimate relationships - four target planets, several major aspects and two types of astrology chart.

The four target planets are Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars. Mercury, however, is neutral and as such may not register in a survey of relationships, plus it can, at times, move quite quickly requiring us to have very accurately timed data. If we use Mercury and we cannot find enough accurately timed data we may lose clarity in our results.

So the experiment must assess the angular distances between Sun, Venus and Mars in birth charts and secondary progressed charts (for the purposes of experimentation we should confine the secondary progressed charts to the charts for the year the relationship began). We should remember that secondary progressed aspects are more precise than natal aspects and keep the error (or orb) for both types of chart small. If we can find timed data (that is: birth charts for couples where both times of birth and the date of relationship is known) we could use a one degree error. The likelihood is that we will find a mixture of timed and untimed data (that is, recorded dates of birth only without recorded times of birth) and therefore we will use a two degree error. As the fastest of the three planets Venus only moves one and a quarter degrees a day in the progressed chart, a two degree error should be a reasonable.

We calculate angles between natal charts, between natal and progressed charts (for the year of the relationship) and between progressed charts (for the year of the relationship).

Data

So, with this method I began to experiment.
After the collection of data from variety of sources including astrological databases, internet sites, biographies and periodicals, I arrived at a data set of 1300 relationships which was made up of 933 relationships which became marriages and 367 relationships which did not.

823 ended in separation or divorce, 234 ended in the death of one or other of the partners and 243 were ongoing in 2005.

The sample couples include at least one public or historical figure from backgrounds such as movie acting, direction or production, politics, royalty and sport; popular music, other arts, journalism, science and philosophy.

Data collection started in 2001 has and continued since. The figure of 1300 was arrived at as it was the number of relationships gathered at the time the book When Stars Collide was commenced in 2004. It would have been an unnecessarily complex exercise to have to update the basic statistics included in the book and so 1300 was the limit. Timed and untimed birth data is used. About a third of the data population includes two timed births.

Data quality is important and in this sort of survey, complex. Data collected for individuals who have a spurious or disputed birth date have been rejected, then researched and where possible re-admitted to the study. Where this was not possible the next relationship gathered above 1300 was added to the sample and the statistics recalculated. The last person removed from the study was showman and film producer Mike Todd. It was discovered in 2005 that Mike Todd forged his own birth certificates (with the assistance of Senator Hubert Humphrey). Three of Todd's relationships were removed and replaced. Because of the necessity to balance the transparency of public record relationships (we need to have access, where possible, to recorded dates to enable qualitative analysis) and the problems of public figures sometimes engineering their own birth date for professional reasons, it is likely that some of the sample is incorrect. It is likely to be a small figure, but so far any false details which were researchable have not caused any concern as far as the astrological hypothesis is concerned.

In total 80 relationships were rejected. Ten were re-admitted after further research.

The following statistical results constitute the final results after calculation using the progressed synastry calculation software developed by Paul Westran and Allen Edwall. The data published in When Stars Collide differs slightly due to the fact that all untimed data was initially calculated for noon GMT. Recalculations were done in 2007 based upon noon at place of birth for all untimed births. At the same time further research was carried out to correct any errors which came to light after the publication of When Stars Collide.

 

Results

Observed Numbers above expectation are in red , numbers below expectation in blue

Note that conjunctions and oppositions should occur in astrology half as often as the other aspects.

Sun Mars aspects:

n=1300

nSun - nMars

nSun - pMars

pSun - nMars

pSun - pMars

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

55

58.74

72

58.74

62

58.74

54

58.74

243

234.96

Conjunctions

24

29.37

21

29.37

29

29.37

25

29.37

99

117.48

Oppositions

22

29.37

32

29.37

29

29.37

34

29.37

117

117.48

Squares

59

58.74

65

58.74

65

58.74

71

58.74

260

234.96

Sextiles

41

58.74

59

58.74

59

58.74

53

58.74

212

234.96

Quincunx

58

58.74

62

58.74

46

58.74

50

58.74

216

234.96

Semi-sextiles

48

58.74

54

58.74

40

58.74

64

58.74

206

234.96

Table 1
The Sun is, broadly speaking, symbolic of the will and life-purpose. It symbolizes negotiation ability and goals. Mars is the planet of method and symbolizes the manner in which the goals are achieved.
  1. The sample of two degree Sun Mars aspects shows overall fewer sextiles, quincunxes and semi-sextiles.
  2. There are 25 more squares than expected, although these are confined to progressed squares.
  3. Overall no pattern emerges apart from the relatively small excess of progressed squares in relationships.
  4. So far we can say that couples at the outset of relationships may be inclined towards relationships that include squares involving progressed Sun and progressed Mars. This does not equate with traditional astrology which would suggest that squares between the Sun and Mars pit the goals of one partner (Sun) at a discordant tangent to the methods of the other (Mars).
  5. Alternatively these results may be slightly skewed due to other factors in the sample of 1300 relationships

Mars Mars aspects:

n=1300

nMars - nMars

nMars - pMars

pMars - pMars

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

17

29.37

39

58.74

17

29.37

73

117.48

Conjunctions

21

14.685

33

29.37

11

14.685

65

58.74

Oppositions

15

14.685

32

29.37

14

14.685

61

58.74

Squares

29

29.37

49

58.74

28

29.37

106

117.48

Sextiles

24

29.37

62

58.74

27

29.37

113

117.48

Quincunx

37

29.37

61

58.74

36

29.37

134

117.48

Semi-sextiles

23

29.37

62

58.74

30

29.37

115

117.48

Table 2
  1. Here we find far fewer Mars Mars trines than we would expect by chance.
  2. There is a slight excess of quincunx aspects
  3. From this we could posit that couples at the outset of relationships prefer to avoid those relationships where Mars is in an easy aspect with Mars. Again this contradicts the idea that the trine aspect is preferable in all cases. We might conclude that Mars is the planet of physical work and prefers to avoid the 'playboy' trine aspect.

Sun Sun aspects:

n=1300

nSun - nSun

nSun - pSun

pSun - pSun

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

28

29.37

62

58.74

27

29.37

117

117.48

Conjunctions

18

14.685

34

29.37

16

14.685

68

58.74

Oppositions

15

14.685

28

29.37

13

14.685

56

58.74

Squares

27

29.37

68

58.74

37

29.37

132

117.48

Sextiles

27

29.37

52

58.74

30

29.37

109

117.48

Quincunx

28

29.37

63

58.74

28

29.37

119

117.48

Semi-sextiles

28

29.37

56

58.74

18

29.37

102

117.48

Table 3
  1. This connection is the popular Sun Sign connection,and the subject of many "love sign" books (within narrow 2 degree and one minute orbs).
  2. There are more squares than any other aspect - this contradicts the "love sign" idea that trines and conjunctions are preferable to squares.
  3. There are fewer progressed semi-sextiles than we would expect
  4. We cannot conclude anything from this data apart from the fact that progressed Sun Sun squares are somehow preferable at the outset of relationships to any other Sun Sun aspect.
  5. Alternatively we could posit the astrological purists argument that the Sun in one person's chart aspecting the Sun in another's chart is irrelevant to the feelings they have about relationships. The Sun is a masculine principle in astrology and while it is capable of negotiating in an assertive way, it is not a symbol of compromise. Venus is the planet of compromise.

Sun Venus aspects:

n-1300

nSun - nVenus

nSun - pVenus

pSun - nVenus

pSun - pVenus

Total

 2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

73

58.74

80

58.74

75

58.74

74

58.74

302

234.96

Conjunctions

42

29.37

40

29.37

35

29.37

44

29.37

161

117.48

Oppositions

42

29.37

42

29.37

37

29.37

42

29.37

163

117.48

Squares

39

58.74

59

58.74

67

58.74

59

58.74

224

234.96

Sextiles

62

58.74

45

58.74

60

58.74

63

58.74

230

234.96

Quincunx

63

58.74

73

58.74

55

58.74

65

58.74

256

234.96

Semi-sextiles

76

58.74

55

58.74

73

58.74

39

58.74

243

234.96

Table 4
  1. There is a significant excess of observed trines, conjunctions and oppositions between Sun and Venus in all styles of planet pairing
  2. There is a slight lack of squares
  3. There is a slight excess of semi-sextile and quincunx
  4. There is across-the-board consistency that Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions in all styles are preferred at the outset of relationships
  5. Trines occur with numerical superiority
  6. Conjunctions and oppositions occur with proportionate superiority
  7. We can conclude that these aspects are the ones to focus upon in any qualitative study.
  8. To solve the slight excess of semi-sextiles and quincunxes, we must remove the relationships which include a Sun Venus trine, conjunction or opposition to check to see if there is a dependency between these aspects
Sun Venus aspects when relationships which include Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions removed:

n-770

nSun - nVenus

nSun - pVenus

pSun - nVenus

pSun - pVenus

Total

 2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

0

34.79

0

34.79

0

34.79

0

34.79

0

139.16

Conjunctions

0

17.39

0

17.39

0

17.39

0

17.39

0

69.56

Oppositions

0

17.39

0

17.39

0

17.39

0

17.39

0

69.56

Squares

27

34.79

40

34.79

37

34.79

34

34.79

138

139.16

Sextiles

47

34.79

30

34.79

43

34.79

52

34.79

172

139.16

Quincunx

28

34.79

36

34.79

20

34.79

31

34.79

115

139.16

Semi-sextiles

41

34.79

31

34.79

45

34.79

22

34.79

139

139.16

Table 5

There is a level of dependency between conjunctions and semi-sextiles and between quincunxes and trines and oppositions. Removal of two of these aspects types, trines and oppositions, causes the number of quincunxes to drop below expectation because of a dual dependency. This dependency is due to the thirty-year/thirty degree factor in Sun Venus progressions. If a Sun Venus trine happens in a relationship, then chances are, after thirty years, one or both of the planets involved will progress by about a distance of 1 degree per year (in the case of Venus it may be 1.25 degrees per year). Most relationships take place between the ages of twenty and forty years old. Thirty degrees from a trine is a quincunx. The same thing happens from the opposition - thirty degrees from an opposition is a quincunx. So if we remove all the relationships which contain Sun Venus trines and oppositions, we remove many potential quincunxes. The same is not true for the semi-sextile as the dependency there is upon sextiles and conjunctions and we have only removed conjunctions from the sample. Another way of looking at this is to say that any relationship which includes a natal Sun Venus opposition cannot also include a progressed Sun Venus semi-sextile, but it can include a progressed Sun Venus quincunx. This is because the distance between the Sun and Venus in the natal chart in never more than 48 degrees and this dictates some of the relationship between the planets in both charts, in turn this places limits on the distance a planet can progress over a llifetime.

Frequency of squares normalizes on the removal of the Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions

Sextiles, (lesser trines), assume the ascendancy when unchallenged statistically by more conventionally powerful and attractive trines, conjunctions and, it would appear, oppositions. Removal of the obviously influential aspects allows us to see that Sun Venus sextiles may therefore have some independent influence of their own in attracting couples into relationships.

 

Venus Mars aspects:

n-1300

nVenus - nMars

nVenus - pMars

pVenus - nMars

pVenus - pMars

Total

 2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

54

58.74

66

58.74

65

58.74

70

58.74

255

234.96

Conjunctions

34

29.37

23

29.37

32

29.37

25

29.37

114

117.48

Oppositions

29

29.37

24

29.37

35

29.37

24

29.37

112

117.48

Squares

59

58.74

64

58.74

42

58.74

61

58.74

226

234.96

Sextiles

62

58.74

59

58.74

63

58.74

58

58.74

242

234.96

Quincunx

61

58.74

66

58.74

56

58.74

60

58.74

243

234.96

Semi-sextiles

50

58.74

53

58.74

54

58.74

58

58.74

215

234.96

Table 6

Mars is the planet of sex, Venus the planet of love. Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

  1. There is an excess of trines, but fewer natal trines than expected.
  2. There is a lack of semi-sextiles
  3. Progressing Venus prefers conjunctions and oppositions and avoids squares with natal Mars
  4. Progressing Mars does not avoid squares and does not show preference for conjunctions or oppositions
  5. Removing the Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions may affect this aspect set

 

Removal of all relationships which include a Sun Venus trine, conjunction or opposition results in the following aspect stats for Venus Mars:

n-770

nVenus - nMars

nVenus - pMars

pVenus - nMars

pVenus - pMars

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

35

34.79

38

34.79

45

34.79

38

34.79

156

139.16

Conjunctions

18

17.39

13

17.39

22

17.39

17

17.39

70

69.56

Oppositions

21

17.39

12

17.39

25

17.39

21

17.39

79

69.56

Squares

33

34.79

38

34.79

24

34.79

37

34.79

132

139.16

Sextiles

35

34.79

35

34.79

32

34.79

30

34.79

132

139.16

Quincunx

34

34.79

38

34.79

30

34.79

35

34.79

137

139.16

Semi-sextiles

26

34.79

36

34.79

30

34.79

35

34.79

127

139.16

Table 7
  1. Trines still very important
  2. Oppositions occur at a higher than expected rate where progressing Venus is involved.
  3. Lack of semisextiles may be related to fewer conjunctions

 

Venus Venus aspects:

n=1300

nVenus - nVenus

nVenus - pVenus

pVenus - pVenus

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

34

29.37

63

58.74

36

29.37

133

117.48

Conjunctions

18

14.685

28

29.37

15

14.685

61

58.74

Oppositions

17

14.685

28

29.37

13

14.685

58

58.74

Squares

24

29.37

55

58.74

22

29.37

101

117.48

Sextiles

26

29.37

60

58.74

26

29.37

112

117.48

Quincunx

29

29.37

69

58.74

33

29.37

131

117.48

Semi-sextiles

34

29.37

48

58.74

23

29.37

105

117.48

Table 8
  1. Similar excess of trines
  2. Venus prefers trines as previously observed
  3. Lack of squares
  4. Venus avoids squares when Mars is not involved

 

Removal of all relationships which include a Sun Venus trine, conjunction or opposition results in the following aspect stats for Venus Venus:

n=770

nVenus - nVenus

nVenus - pVenus

pVenus - pVenus

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

21

17.39

42

34.79

21

17.39

84

69.56

Conjunctions

13

8.69

20

17.39

10

8.69

43

34.76

Oppositions

9

8.69

16

17.39

7

8.69

32

34.76

Squares

19

17.39

42

34.79

17

17.39

78

69.56

Sextiles

16

17.39

41

34.79

18

17.39

75

69.56

Quincunx

16

17.39

34

34.79

15

17.39

65

69.56

Semi-sextiles

23

17.39

29

34.79

10

17.39

62

69.56

Table 9
  1. Excess of trines and conjunctions
  2. Slight lack of oppositions
  3. Excess of progressed squares and progressed sextiles

From the sample of 367 relationships that did not end in marriage Venus Mars aspects:

n-367

nVenus - nMars

nVenus - pMars

pVenus - nMars

pVenus - pMars

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

16

16.58

19

16.58

23

16.58

28

16.58

86

66.3

Conjunctions

12

8.29

8

8.29

8

8.29

5

8.29

33

33.2

Oppositions

7

8.29

8

8.29

11

8.29

5

8.29

31

33.2

Squares

12

16.58

18

16.58

10

16.58

18

16.58

58

66.3

Sextiles

16

16.58

12

16.58

15

16.58

18

16.58

61

66.3

Quincunx

17

16.58

21

16.58

15

16.58

16

16.58

69

66.3

Semi-sextiles

11

16.58

19

16.58

20

16.58

21

16.58

71

66.3

Table 10
  1. Trines involving progressing Venus are more popular in unmarried relationships than would be expected.
  2. Natal conjunctions also occur proportionately often

 

Sun Venus aspects in the sample of 367 relationships that did not end in marriage:

n-367

nSun - nVenus

nSun - pVenus

pSun - nVenus

pSun - p Venus

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

20

16.58

27

16.58

23

16.58

25

16.58

95

66.32

Conjunctions

10

8.29

14

8.29

11

8.29

10

8.29

45

33.16

Oppositions

12

8.29

12

8.29

6

8.29

12

8.29

42

33.16

Squares

10

16.58

18

16.58

22

16.58

16

16.58

66

66.32

Sextiles

21

16.58

10

16.58

17

16.58

19

16.58

67

66.32

Quincunx

17

16.58

23

16.58

11

16.58

18

16.58

69

66.32

Semi-sextiles

22

16.58

17

16.58

20

16.58

11

16.58

70

66.32

Table 11
  1. Progressed Venus trines are numerically superior.
  2. Progressing Venus conjunct natal Sun proportionately more common than trine equivalent and proportionately equal to progressed Venus progressed Mars trine frequency

Venus Venus aspects in the sample of 367 relationships that did not end in marriage:

n=367

nVenus - nVenus

nVenus - pVenus

pVenus - pVenus

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

12

8.29 

21

16.58

12

8.29  

45

33.16

Conjunctions

8

4.145 

7

8.29

5

4.145  

20

16.58

Oppositions

4

4.145  

8

8.29

5

4.145  

17

16.58

Squares

6

8.29  

16

16.58

5

8.29  

27

33.16

Sextiles

5

8.29  

17

16.58

8

8.29  

30

33.16

Quincunx

6

8.29  

20

16.58

9

8.29  

35

33.16

Semi-sextiles

8

8.29  

16

16.58

6

8.29  

30

33.16

Table 12
  1. Trines still very popular
  2. Conjunctions also popular

Because this sample also includes Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions, if we remove these from the sample of 367 unmarried couples, we find 208 relationships.

 

Venus Mars aspects in the reduced sample of 208 unmarried couples (without Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions):

n=208

nVenus - nMars

nVenus - pMars

pVenus - nMars

pVenus - pMars

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

12

9.32

11

9.32

14

9.32

15

9.32

52

37.29

Conjunctions

6

4.66

5

4.66

7

4.66

4

4.66

22

18.64

Oppositions

6

4.66

5

4.66

8

4.66

5

4.66

24

18.64

Squares

8

9.32

12

9.32

4

9.32

12

9.32

36

37.29

Sextiles

8

9.32

5

9.32

6

9.32

7

9.32

26

37.29

Quincunx

12

9.32

13

9.32

10

9.32

8

9.32

43

37.29

Semi-sextiles

3

9.32

13

9.32

11

9.32

11

9.32

38

37.29

Table 13
  1. Trines, conjunctions and oppositions all above expectation
  2. Trines still numerically superior and consistent
  3. Oppositions are also strong in this sample
  4. Excess of quincunx aspects also evident

Venus Venus aspects in the reduced sample of 208 unmarried couples (without Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions):

n=208

nVenus - nVenus

nVenus - pVenus

pVenus - pVenus

Total

2.017 degree orb

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Obs

Exp

Trines

8

4.66

14

9.32

5

4.66

27

18.646

Conjunctions

5

2.33

6

4.66

3

2.33

14

9.32

Oppositions

3

2.33

4

4.66

4

2.33

11

9.32

Squares

4

4.66

14

9.32

5

4.66

23

18.646

Sextiles

2

4.66

11

9.32

5

4.66

18

18.646

Quincunx

4

4.66

11

9.32

4

4.66

19

18.646

Semi-sextiles

4

4.66

7

9.32

12

4.66

23

18.646

Table 14
  1. Working with very small numbers now
  2. Trines still numerically dominant in this aspect combination
  3. Conjunctions actually proportionately ahead by a small %age

 

Quantitative Conclusions:

The results of this sampling suggest that certain Sun Venus aspects are the main relationship starters in progressed (and natal) relationship astrology.

Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions create some kind of subjective condition which is favorable for relationships

This pattern is repeated in the case of Venus Mars trines and Venus Venus trines and may be detectable for oppositions and conjunctions of Venus and Mars under certain conditions.

No conclusions can be drawn from the rest of the sampling unless the relationships which include two-degree Sun Venus trines, conjunctions and oppositions are removed from the sample as results suggest that they play a role and will therefore interfere with analysis of the other aspect groupings. Their presence skews other results, which either normalize (Sun Venus squares) or start to appear influential (Sun Venus sextiles, Venus Mars oppositions) upon their removal from the sample.

Overall Venus appears to prefer the ease of the trine and to avoid conflict inherent in squares and oppositions. This rule is modified slightly when the Sun and Mars are involved.

Excess semi-sextile and quincunx aspects are the product of an excess of trines, conjunctions and oppositions. This is because there is a thirty degree gap between semi-sextiles and conjunctions:

30 degrees ----- retrograde------0 Degrees ------- Direct ----------- 30 degrees

For Sun progressions, 30 degrees = 30 years. Many relationships which include a natal semi-sextile between Sun and Venus will include a progressed conjunction, or they could possibly include a progressed sextile. Note that while the Sun cannot progress retrograde (backwards from 30 degrees to 0), Venus can.

30 degrees ------direct------------60 degrees-----------retrograde -----30 degrees

In a sample with an excess of progressed and natal conjunctions, an excess of semi-sextiles is also likely between the same planets. The fact that the excess is with conjunctions and not sextiles is explained best by astrology. (If we take the relationships which contain natal Sun semisextile natal Venus there are 73 relationships. In that sample, there exist a total of 33 2-degree-and-one- minute Sun Venus conjunctions and 19 2-degree-and-one-minute Sun Venus sextiles).

Quincunxes are aspects of 150 degrees and lie half way between trines and oppositions. Because there is an excess of both aspects in this sample, quincunxes occur at below expectation when we remove both trines and oppositions (see Table 5)

These are quantitative conclusions, we can however, examine individual relationships to ascertain if they provide qualitative reasons to suspect progressed Venus as a relationship indicator.

While no hard and fast conclusions should be inferred from these results, if you want to demonstrate astrology, this is the experiment you should perform to establish how you do it.

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